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This pattern was the first pattern with a [[heff]] that I learned. That was quite a big step for me at the time, although I was able to juggle 4 clubs and there are some patterns/tricks one that may make beginning with heffs in patterns a bit easier.
This pattern was the first pattern with a [[heff]] that I learned. It was quite a big step for me at the time, so I would recommend starting with the 5-club why-not and some other patterns/tricks one that may make beginning with heffs in patterns a bit easier.


== Patterns to do before this one ==
== Patterns to do before this one ==


* one-person 441 (should get 50-100 catches)
* one-person [[441]] (should get 50-100 catches)
* one-person 4 club fountain ( should get at least 10-20 catches)
* one-person [[4 club fountain]] ( should get at least 10-20 catches)
* [[Jim's 2-count]] - This is also a compatible pattern, only two throws are switched
* [[Jim's 2-count]] - This is also a compatible pattern, only two throws are switched
* [[5c why-not]]
* [[5c why-not]]
* 4-count with 441 instead of 3 selfs
* [[4-count]] with 441 instead of 3 selfs
* [[3-count]] with 42 instead of 2 selfs
* [[9-count why-not]] (the why-not like pattern compatible/based on [[Jim's 4-count]]


== Why Not ==
== Why Not ==
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H=[[heff]]
H=[[heff]]


This start has the advantage for A, that A can throw the complete (first half) sequence of the pattern plus one pass from when the pattern starts again from the left hand. B only catches all passes without throwing to A, A can get used to the new sequence without the stress of reacting to incoming passes. Juggler A should also do this starting from the left hand, to get both sides of the pattern. This is of course mostly an advantage when B already knows the sequence.
This start with 4 clubs for A has the advantage, that A can throw the complete (first half) sequence of the pattern plus one pass before running out of clubs. So if B only catches all passes without throwing to A, A can get used to the new sequence without the stress of having to catch incoming passes.

Juggler A should also do this "dry run" starting from the left hand, to get used to both sides of the pattern. This is of course mostly an advantage when B already knows the sequence. If B cannot do why-not well, it is recommended that B juggles a compatible pattern they are comfortable with like Jim's 2-count (see below).


There is an alternate start, where each has 3 clubs:
There is an alternate start, where each has 3 clubs:
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Here, B has the start into the sequence that A had with the 4-club start above.
Here, B has the start into the sequence that A had with the 4-club start above.


Color coding: Three Clubs always do the heffs and passes, the other three clubs do self-zip and pass. So you could color-code the clubs that do the heffs.


== Next Patterns ==
== Next Patterns ==


Other patterns of the [[Why-Not_Family]]:
Other patterns of the [[Why-Not Family]]:


* [[Not Why]]
* [[Not Why]]
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Inverted parsnip is a very good pattern for one to do if both jugglers are still learning why-not to get longer runs and overall faster success:
Inverted parsnip is a very good pattern for one to do if both jugglers are still learning why-not to get longer runs and overall faster success:


* [[Inverted Parsnip]] ([https://passist.org/siteswap/7726277822?jugglers=2 pattern and start on passist.org])
* [[Inverted Parsnip]] ([https://passist.org/siteswap/7726277822?jugglers=2 combined pattern and its start])


This one has [[zap]]s:
This one has [[zap]]s:

Latest revision as of 18:05, 6 November 2024

This pattern was the first pattern with a heff that I learned. It was quite a big step for me at the time, so I would recommend starting with the 5-club why-not and some other patterns/tricks one that may make beginning with heffs in patterns a bit easier.

Patterns to do before this one

Why Not

Sequence: A starts with 4 clubs and has straight passes, B starts with 2 clubs and has crossing passes.

A 2|2: P S P H Z
B 1|1:  H Z P S P

P=pass

Z=zip

H=heff

This start with 4 clubs for A has the advantage, that A can throw the complete (first half) sequence of the pattern plus one pass before running out of clubs. So if B only catches all passes without throwing to A, A can get used to the new sequence without the stress of having to catch incoming passes.

Juggler A should also do this "dry run" starting from the left hand, to get used to both sides of the pattern. This is of course mostly an advantage when B already knows the sequence. If B cannot do why-not well, it is recommended that B juggles a compatible pattern they are comfortable with like Jim's 2-count (see below).

There is an alternate start, where each has 3 clubs:

A 2|1: P H Z P S 
B 2|1:  P S P H Z 

Here, B has the start into the sequence that A had with the 4-club start above.

Color coding: Three Clubs always do the heffs and passes, the other three clubs do self-zip and pass. So you could color-code the clubs that do the heffs.

Next Patterns

Other patterns of the Why-Not Family:

7 club patterns with heffs:

5-count popcorn (async)

Compatible Patterns

4-club patterns - the combined pattern has 5 clubs:

Inverted parsnip is a very good pattern for one to do if both jugglers are still learning why-not to get longer runs and overall faster success:

This one has zaps:

6-club patterns:

Jim's 2-count is also a good pattern for one side to juggle if why-not is new for both jugglers

Not Why is very similar to Why Not in difficulty:

Not Likely has double passes